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From Kurt Cobains hysterically dumb "As beautiful as a rock in a cops face" to gangsta raps bone-deep hatred of any authority at all, it seems that most modern music teaches people to ignore, disrespect, and often hate authority. I imagine the writers and artists see some kind of informed political engagement, even a revolutionary potential, in their music. Of course it isnt. Hip hop does nothing but enforce racial stereotypes, and idiotic messages like that of Kurt Cobain do nothing at all.

But it seems to sell. Positive music doesnt. Hip hop is the biggest seller in America - and most of it is about shooting someone - mostly authority figures. Hip hop fans talk about how it is real, its about civil rights, how blacks can make it in America. But what's the point when its only message is if you kill other people, f!@k b**ches, and smoke weed you can make it? If hip hop is a cry against the oppression why is it far more violent, misogynist, anti-authority than 50 years ago when blacks really were oppressed? Or the fact that most of the buyers of hip hop are white? Shouldnt something more positive work better - say the message given by A Tribe Called Quest, Run DMC, or De La Soul?

Teenage angst in guitar music is played by twenty-somethings who hate their parents and sold to pre-teens and angry adolescents. Most twenty somethings dont hate their parents - they know it was just teenage rebellion. The more succesful whinging bands oft he 90s such as Nirvana, Pearl Jam, etc had alot of complaints to make. And all of them were in their thirties. Most guitar bands seem to hate the government - along with a seemingly disrespectful view of the rule of law, and unspoken societal rules. Why? Musicians are synonmous with their abuse of illegal drugs, underage sex, and bad behavior. And most of the time they get away with it. This is the message for us? Travel the world, make money getting drunk, drugged up, get 16 year old girls pregnant, and then complain about authority? Why? And why do we listen? Musical heroes tend to be addicts (in some way), yet we see them as tortured souls. Kurt Cobain is a dead heroin addict and society elevates him to a frail social poet - why? Rage Against The Machines main message was that American authority and power is bad. More respected artists such as Bob Dylan and Bruce Springsteen rejected the idea of American power as a legitimate good. Musicians want to be activists - opposers of laws, corporations, power, government, whatever intangible thing they see as authority. The 60s wasnt about free-love, it was about people hating their parents, the government, the police, the past. The message of the 70s was that the naive optimism of the 60s didnt work - and that it was simply about ignoring authority. Why does music hate authority?
I think that through art, individuals can express their opinions about anything and, whilst that might not fit in with all of the rest of the world's view on life, there are indeed a lot of people who feel the same but are unable to express it so eloquently or creatively.

I think that a lot of us try to understand the lyrics of somebody like Kurt Cobain, but can we really? We think we know what he was on about when he sung, but do we really know? I'm not sure.

As for what rap music represents to the black community? I don't know. You probably need to ask somebody from South Central LA what life is like, and then compare it to what so many rappers are singing about. The fact that it's popular with white suburban teenagers is because the music is good and the fantastic lifestyles that are portrayed in the videos is tantalising.

For me, this anti-establishment sentiment has long been the thinking of the artistic community, as well as the mind-altering substances that are so popular with artists. What do you think Picasso, Lautrec and all their left-bank buddies were talking about in Paris when they were drinking their Absinthe? It probably wasn't about how cool the government was at the time.

I think that most of society would use a platform of stardom and popularity to talk about the things that piss them off, if they could. Unfortunately nobody would listen to what 95% of the population has to say. That's why we have conferences and seminars and business books - so that those who think they have something to say get their opportunity. When was the last time you stayed awake all day at a conference/listening to a political party's convention lectures?

Anarchy in the UK regards...

Laurence Wrote:
When was the last time you stayed awake all day at a conference/listening to a political party's convention lectures?


I better not answer that for fear of being called a sad-o. My favorite though was last years Democratic National Convention - that was hilarious.

wierdo

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Well it's just like you don't really want B.B King to start singing truthfully or it might go something like

I've Got the No Blue Blues
Mortgage is all paid
yeah! I've got the no blue blues
My woman ain't gone and left me
In fact she went shopping for jewelery today
Yeah puppy's on the lawn
The picket fence is white
Yeah! I got the no blue blues

ETC.
[quote="mrbungle2103"] if you kill other people, f!@k b**ches, and smoke weed you can make it? [quote]

That's cuz you can.

Who wants to hear the "Listen to your parents, go to school, study hard and wear a cardigan and slippers" song?

Wouldn't Hoiyt cry
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