HI CAN SOMEONE HELP ME I AM 22 AND I WANT TO MOVE TO USA TO BE WITH MY FIANCEE SHE IS 18 BUT THE THING IS SHE ISSHE WILL BE FINISHING SCHOOL IN 2003 AND SHE LIVES AT HOME STILL
SO I WAS WONDERING FROM WHAT I READ IS IT CORRECT THAT SHE HAS TO HAVE HER OWN PLACE AND BE EARNING MONEY FOR OVER A YEAR BECAUSE IF THIS IS THE CASE WE HAVE PROBLEMS BECAUSE I WANTED TO APPLY FOR A VISA SOON AND MOVE OVER THERE AND I WAS GONNA BE THE ONE TO GET A PLACE TO LIVE WITH HER
COULD ANYBODY ELSE GIVE ME SOME INFORMATON ON THIS PLEASE THANK YOU
I don't mean to be rude pal, but from your basic information here you both seem to be immature to me...
Was it a holiday romance? See how you both feel in a year - I have an 18 year old daughter and I know that she just does not have the maturity to take on the responsibilites of settling down, getting married and perhaps having children by the time she's 20.
What skills do you have? Can you come into the US on another type of visa?
I think its highly unlikely that you would be granted a visa as you'd need her to sponsor you which means she would need to be working and earning a certain amount of income.
As Dawn suggested why don't you wait a while? Let her finish school/college. If you can apply someother way to come over via work sponsorship not for marriage. As a mother of two girls I'd be damned if I'd let them marry at such a young age.
If you do love one another then long distance relationships can be substainable.
Zed
Well thankyou for your observations but i think it is wrong of you to call me and me fiance immature because we are not, all young people are not stupid you know.
Anyway we met online over a year ago and after talkin on the phone for about 8 months i went to meer her in usa and we fell even more deeply in love and since that time i have seen her again and i am off out there next month as well so yes we are very much in love and we got engaged in april when i was there and we can not wait to be together.
I understand that u think we are too young but we are both adults and very much in love and we want to be together and settle down that is what is right for us we both beleive.
Well thankyou for ya advice anyway and i realize she needs to sponsor me so i guess we will have to wait longer till we can be together unless i can get over there through money i will have to hurry up and make a million with my entreprenuial skills i have
anyway thank u all good luck in life
Let me be the first to apologize for the condescending rudeness directed towards you. Sorry, adults can be so not cool sometimes.
Just one thing, I feel a need to preface my response. Please note that I am not an immigration attorney and don’t have any special expertise in immigration matters or in INS procedures; I am not offering any legal advice here and no attorney-client privilege is created by me offering a few layman’s inexpert but constructive observation(s). That said, I would recommend that you consider traveling to the USA to spend some time with your loved one to help you both decide how you want your relationship to proceed.
If you do formulate plans to get married there are several options that you guys might consider. For example, you could take the “Form I-129F route”. It is my understanding (but please do your own due diligence) that once the I-129F is approved this would enable you to travel to the USA as a fiancée and if you marry your fiancee within 90 days of arrival you could apply for a change of status and thereby acquire conditional alien resident status (conditional status may be removed by the INS once you have been genuinely married for two years). However, the form would have to be completed by your American fiancee and the properly filled in Form I-129F should be filed with an INS Service Center with jurisdiction over your fiancee’s area of residence. There is a processing fee of about $110 (might have gone up).
The idea of filling in such forms might frighten your fiancée in which case I guess you will at least know that the engagement is not really on solid ground or likely to lead to marriage. Good luck to you.
More info on the I-129F route is available on the http//www.ins.gov web-site @
http//www.ins.gov/graphics/formsfee/forms/i-129f.htm
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Were we rude?
If this is as serious as you post, have you considered asking her parents to sponsor you?
Zed
I also married a girl I met on the internet. Even though we had known each other for 5 years before we married, people still thought we were too young as we were 'only' 23. We did have a long-distance relationship for 2 1/2 years before I moved over here (seeing each other every 3-4 months) so we knew that our love could withstand pretty much anything, and since I arrived here its been perfect. Obviously you need to be sure its right for you (and the time apart really tested that) but I have no regrets doing what I did.
I can't really add much factual information to the fine job UK_Meets_USA wrote, and all you can do is research on websites to get more of an idea of what is involved. The K-1 (fiance) visa process is long and very annoying (it took us about 6 months from first petition to getting the visa). In my opinion it is worth it, because you are not viewed with as much suspicion by the INS as you may be if you just come over and get married. There are plenty of websites and newsgroups to give you advice and information. You will need a co-sponsor if your fiancee doesn't make 125% of the poverty line (which for 2 people is around $14 000 I think).
Oh, and keep in mind that it is expensive to move over to the US and set-up home. I saved for over a year and that money is pretty much gone, and I still don't have my work authorisation. Unless you have someone who is going to completely support you while you are waiting for the application to be processed then you need to have a LOT of savings to get by.
Anyway, hope me sharing my experiences has been useful. Good luck with everything.
George
its not fair i just wanna go to live in usa with my wifey to be but there are all these bloody stupid rules lol
hey listen immigration ihave money ok i will rent a house there then i will move there then we will live together okkkkkkkkk
what is all this stupid stuff about she has to be able to look after me its bullshittttt
what about when a usa person comes to live in uk for a while then they both want to move back to usa then, cos noone has a job or house there do they so wassup with that how does anyone move from another country top the use if there partener they are moving to be with is still living at home
life aint fare arghhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh
sorry all just leting out some stress lol bye
IWTBWMFITUSA,
This is just a note to let you know that the Immigration process here is very long, complicated and difficult.
I think the point Zed and Dawn made is a valid one. You have to be more than certain that this is what you want. You also have to certain that you can weather the storm of Immigration red-tape ahead of you.
Like Dayy4Tripper pointed out, you cannot legally work over here until you are married and apply for and obtain the work visa. He did not say that your fiancee should support you, merely that she has to prove that to Immigration at first. If she can't then you have to find an American citizen with the right income level to sponsor you. This person has to be related to either you or your fiancee.
If you have substantial wealth then you can apply for a "business" visa that will allow you to open your own business over here. Later on you can marry and apply for your green card and eventual citizenship. Of course you would have to have a great deal of personal wealth to do this.
It's fine to let off steam but just remember that if you're feeling this frustrated now, what will it be like after six months and your visa still hasn't been approved?
Oh, and life isn't fair by any standards.
Best of luck with whichever route you choose.
UKM :smile:
UKM, you put down just what I was going to say grin
Why don't you get a job and then move over. If you are 22 and say you already have money, then I am presuming you have a degree. A necessary requirement over here, unfortunately.
If you have a lot of money ($1million) then you can open your own business.
D4YTR1PPER, there is quite a big difference between 18 and 23 by the way. I got married at 22 and my husband was 23. But if I had only been 18 there is no way my parents would be happy about it and I wouldn't be happy for my daughter to get married at that age either. This girl hasn't even finished school yet!
IWTBWMFITUSA, if you are that determind to marry this girl, and her parents approve of it, why don't you sponsor her to move to the UK. If you can afford to rent a home over here, then you can afford to rent/buy one in the UK. Then once you have been married for a few years, apply to come over here.
Still think the best and quickest way would be to find work first, though.
AND, having the attitude that the whole process is stupid just adds to the fact that you are coming across as being a bit immature. Believe it or not, we were your age once and we haven't forgotten what it was like to be young and in love smile If you want to show that you are mature enough to handle this kind of thing (and I tell you now, the pressure will be the worst thing in your life, ever and more some), watch your language and show maturity in your writing. smile
By the way, what do your parents think of all this too?
I suppose the rules and regulations are the way they are to discourage those whose hearts may not truly be into it and those who marry simply to gain access to the country. (Incidentally, this appears to be something I am being accused of which is rather interesting but there you go.)
Where there is a will, there is a way and if you really want to do it, then you probably will but you'll have to work on it and keep going, even when things look a bit dicey.
If your fiance is currently not working and hasn't worked for the past few years then things will be difficult. As others mentioned, you will need to find someone else who will sponsor you and vouch that they will support you for the first few years you are in the country. This can be quite hard - I was in a similar position at one time and it surprised me that people were not that enthusiastic about the idea of supporting me - the culture here is not really geared towards helping others - it truly is 'every man for himself' sometimes, family or not. The bizarre part of course is that I never for a minute considered I would need supporting at any time but that is the system and it is geared towards the lowest common denominator - the immigrant with no money or resources.
If no one will sponsor you and you can't get into the US to get married, then you may need to conduct a long distance relationship until circumstances improve. As far as getting a job in this country, as some have suggested, I'm not sure how easy that will be. It is expensive for a US company to hire foreign nationals unless they work in the technology field and it can be proven that there is a skills shortage, forcing them to hire out of the country. I worked for a US market research firm before I came to live here in the States and even then, the company rarely moved British employees over to Chicago because of the cost - it was actually more cost effective to move Americans the other way.
Anyway, good luck to you but remember, the path is deliberately strewn with obstacles and it is something of a test. If you and your fiancee really want to succeed then you probably will - but bear in mind, it won't necessarily all fall into place as smoothly as you would like.
I wanna... ,
It may help to bear in mind that although most posters here are older than you now, they weren't always, and many were in the same position as you and now speak from experience -which is surely what you are seeking when you ask for help on a British Expatriates board?
It really is hard moving over here when you are not allowed to work and have to be "supported". I think the idea of moving your fiancee to the UK for a while so you can marry and establish your careers there seems like the best proposition -you are the older one and seem to be the one best placed to play the "financial sponsorship" role.
Another plus point, of course, is that she will be able to drink legally! lol
Well everyone above has made good points.
I am young. I am just 21 and my hsuband is about to be 26. We met when I was just 18, though it wasn't anything romantic at first we became really good friends and our relationship porgressed over time.
I ended up moving to England since it was the easiest way for us to be together. I lived over on as a tourist for a few months just to make sure Tony and I could put up with eachother, and a few months later we flew back to LA to get my fiance entry visa.
Long story short we got married this past feb (I was 20) and things couldn't be better.
I left college in the states as well as my job, but it has been worth it. The rules aren't as tough for your fiance to come to England. Once you are married for awhile, it will be easier to move back to the states if you really want to. My husband and I plan on doing that in the next few years.
Yes you both are young and you may be mature, but you will have to be even more mature so to speak to prove to immigration that you both are serious. You both have to be commited to giving up alot of your time, effort, and money in order for you two to be together.
I do believe it is currently cheeper for her to go to you with regards to immigration. As a fiance she couldn't work or go to college until you were married, and on the fiance visa you must be married within six months.
Feel free to email me if you would like and I will be more then happy to help with regards to immigration information to the States and England.
Good luck to you both.
I was 23 when I married my 24 year old American fiance. We had known each other for about 7-8 years previously and been together for 3 1/2 years prior to that. However, we wanted to be sure that our relationship would last and didn't want to rush into marriage. We too visited each other as often as possible. I spent one year in the US through university, then he came to England to stay with me through Bunac for 9 months (working 6 months, leaving the country for a holiday in Europe for 1 week and returning to England on a travel visa for another 3 months) - so your fiance could consider doing that to give you a way to spend more time together without having to get married straight away. Then I did an internship through the Mountbatten Internship Programme in New York where I was able to work in New York for a year. I'm not sure where you're fiance lives, but you could see if there are any internship programmes in her area or do a similar work-visa program like Bunac for up to 1 year I think. That at least will give the pair of you some time to spend together and decide whether marriage is definitely the right step for you. You sound very much in love and although at 19 I pretty much knew that I wanted to marry my husband, (and 23 is still pretty young to get married these days) I'm definitely glad that I waited for us both to get our careers established and education out of the way. Why not take some time to save some money and get to know each other a bit better - live with each other for a while and see how things work out before making such a huge committment. I wish you the best.
Em
