British Expatriate Network - School fund raising

londonsquare @ Thu 10 May, 2007 2:50 pm Wrote:

Something that we should be considering in this discussion, is the importance that colleges place on extracurricular activities. At the top schools, having SATs of 1400 and straight "A"s is as common as having skin, it's the clubs and sports participation that get you in. The less competitive schools still use the extras to select from students who are academic equals. So is school a preparation for college? if so, should the cost of the exttras be part of the school budget?

only if all are entitled to participate. just as all get the chance to take their SATs.

Oh and for the record, I have raised $20,000 this year for our school, running the scrip program. That from only 50 or so participating families and that is a fundraiser that takes very little time and has no out of pocket expense. So I do know what I'm talking about. And I rock. mrgreen

eta no out of pocket expense means all $ came from companies not families.

monster @ Thu 10 May, 2007 Wrote:

JohnA @ Thu 10 May, 2007 1:37 pm Wrote:

im sure you support facilities in schools where those that follow a alturnative lifestyle can go to socilize with each other . should that be paid for out of school funds (taxes ) how does that represent all the students in the school ?? .

Eh? What are you on about? There are no activities at our school to which only some of the students are invited apart from those based on age -and students all get a chance at those when they are they right age. What do you mean by alternative lifestyles? Please do give examples. And where do you get off making such assumptions any way? :roll: And don't start the I'm not assuming/I didn't mean you crap -you quoted me and said "I'm sure you....."

I was talking about schools generally Monster not yours in particular .
there have been discussions in the distant past about A/L gays lesbians and it was in my mind that i read you supported them having there own facilities within the school .
if you were NOT the person saying that im in error .

you are the only one that cames ot mind who participates in parant /teacher fund raising activities for schools so i *assumed *it was you , as i said if you didnt state a perferance for A/L having a place of there own in the schools im in error ...sorry

Having said that what is your position re- seperate facilities for alturnative lifestyle students in general .

and is your position the same for the financing of

Costumes for school plays .

outfits for chearleaders .

sports apparel for those on teams .

Should this now go to the political board lol.

Its funny when all this comes about, what to allow, what not to allow in schools, its all double standards really.

Another example of that would be not having a prey before the school game etc, but the school facilitating someone else religious believes.

It should either be no religious stuff or all religious stuff.

Monster $20,000, you go. Now all we need to do is start a business lol.

But a lot of school fundraising is just that a business

JohnA @ Thu 10 May, 2007 5:35 pm Wrote:

I was talking about schools generally Monster not yours in particular .
there have been discussions in the distant past about A/L gays lesbians and it was in my mind that i read you supported them having there own facilities within the school .
if you were NOT the person saying that im in error .

there are a lot of gay parents at our school. Neither they nor their children are afforded special facilities or priviledges.

At our school, things like costumes for plays would most likely be made by the kids doing the play or kids who wanted to be involved but didn't want to be on the stage. they would be supervised by enthusiastic parents. Most likely to fabric needed would already be lying around or the kids would bring it in from home. If purchase were needed it would come from the arts fund, which is money raise by music and theater events and the art fair, and donations made specifically for the Arts. Sports teams would work similarly. we are not a high school, so football is not played. All other teams play in printed t-shirts, they usually just buy them themselves, but there would be money available (from fundraising) to pay for those who cannot afford it.

Sports equipment would be provided by the school budget, but the PTO make funds available from fundraising wehich the PE teachers can spend on more equipment if they wish. of they could spend it on a sports-related field trip. Or on awards for the kids. or end-of-year treats. Or whatever they feel will enhance the service they provide to the school and the community.

In our school, each classroom has a fund, each teacher has a fund, any department/prioject who wants to has a fund. The PTO acts as a bank, and also has it's own fund to support those wiithout. Parents can doante directly to any fund. or they can buy Scrip from me and tell me how they would like the profits donated and I collate all these funds and pass them on. This is how we manage to raise so much money. Parents are keen to make the tiny bit of effort involved if they can dictate exactly where the money goes and not have to pay it out of their own pocket.

This is why I think it should and can be done by fundraising. Everbody is happy -the taxpayers without kids, those with cheerleaders, those with chess club members.

monster @ Fri 11 May, 2007 Wrote:

JohnA @ Thu 10 May, 2007 5:35 pm Wrote:

I was talking about schools generally Monster not yours in particular .
there have been discussions in the distant past about A/L gays lesbians and it was in my mind that i read you supported them having there own facilities within the school .
if you were NOT the person saying that im in error .

there are a lot of gay parents at our school. Neither they nor their children are afforded special facilities or priviledges.

At our school, things like costumes for plays would most likely be made by the kids doing the play or kids who wanted to be involved but didn't want to be on the stage. they would be supervised by enthusiastic parents. Most likely to fabric needed would already be lying around or the kids would bring it in from home. If purchase were needed it would come from the arts fund, which is money raise by music and theater events and the art fair, and donations made specifically for the Arts. Sports teams would work similarly. we are not a high school, so football is not played. All other teams play in printed t-shirts, they usually just buy them themselves, but there would be money available (from fundraising) to pay for those who cannot afford it.

Sports equipment would be provided by the school budget, but the PTO make funds available from fundraising wehich the PE teachers can spend on more equipment if they wish. of they could spend it on a sports-related field trip. Or on awards for the kids. or end-of-year treats. Or whatever they feel will enhance the service they provide to the school and the community.

In our school, each classroom has a fund, each teacher has a fund, any department/prioject who wants to has a fund. The PTO acts as a bank, and also has it's own fund to support those wiithout. Parents can doante directly to any fund. or they can buy Scrip from me and tell me how they would like the profits donated and I collate all these funds and pass them on. This is how we manage to raise so much money. Parents are keen to make the tiny bit of effort involved if they can dictate exactly where the money goes and not have to pay it out of their own pocket.

This is why I think it should and can be done by fundraising. Everbody is happy -the taxpayers without kids, those with cheerleaders, those with chess club members.

thats seems fair and reasonable Monster .
its a long time since ive been involved in scholl activities .dont know to much how it works in texas

pardon my ignorance what is scrip ???

Scrip is gift cards. But you don't have to give them, you can spend them yourselves. On groceries or clothes or online....

You buy them from me at face value. I get them at a discount because I am a non-profit org. I keep the difference to benefit the school. Fot most grocery stores, the difference is 5%. restaurants and bookstores are around 10%. You want to go to dinner at Red lobster? I sell you $40 of RL gift cards. you give me $40. You're not outof pocket. But I only pay $36 for them. I divide the $4 between the activities you want to support.