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Moo @ Tue Feb 13, 2007 2:11 pm Wrote:
What is it with these Americans? They're always shooting each other at shopping centres or schools? Are they so estranged and alienated that they have little to no shared humanity?

Sick bastards. :roll:

Yes, Americans must be so bad. Certainly, the British subway bombers and bus bombers are kinder, gentler, and more civilized. The Spanish train bombers and the Bali bombers are all such sweet mass murderers. And, you are certainly not an arrogant, ignorant, self-centered, uninformed bigot.

America (USA) has one of the most diverse populations in the world due to the millions of immigrants that enter the USA from hundreds of countries throughout the world. Anytime you have large unassimilated populations, there are tensions and crime. (Just ask the French about their disaffected Muslim riots.) So America has some problems because it is so free. Nevertheless, an America visa or passport is one of the most valuable documents in the world because so many people want to come to America for the freedom, opportunity, equality, stability, and safety.

You will note that when the American economy hiccuped recently, the rest of the world caught pneumonia, and stock markets tumbled throughout the world. So even if your America is so horrible, America supports the wellbeing of almost the entire world. How much misery and death is avoided because American freedom, rule of law, and the resulting American economy generate vast amounts of wealth in the world to support, feed, and care for billions of people.

One reason that there are infrequent multiple shootings in the USA is that until recently the American population was disarmed by laws which refused American citizens the right to carry guns, so only criminals carried guns and used them on the defenseless population. You will note that in the Old West, when everyone went armed, there were very few mass shootings, because after the first shot, everyone else had the guns to shoot back. The would be mass shooting ended quickly. In the most recent multiple shooting at a church, it was a fellow parishioner with a concealed carry permit that stopped the killer after his first few shots. The more American citizens that carry guns, the more law abiding and courteous the country becomes.

Many criminals have been known to actually flee States that allow concealed carry permits and go to more "civilized" States that keep their citizens disarmed and vulnerable victims. This fact, and many statistics prove that even a small percentage of citizens who are armed with concealed carry rights actually make their communities and their entire State a safer place to live.

In the USA, the national instant criminal background check system may easily determine if someone wanting to own a firearm is prohibited from doing so in accordance to the Gun Control Act of 1968. Hence, law abiding citizens may quickly purchase firearms and still be screened for a clean criminal record before receiving the gun.

In the USA, criminal records are public information which further enhances public safety on billions of occasions because ordinary citizens have free access to information that can warn them about criminals in their midst, be it follow employees, neighbors, nannies, dates, or anyone the law abiding citizens suspect could threaten them. This protective information is so popular that an entire industry has developed to collect criminal record information from courthouses nationwide and provide to the public in the form of a convenient searchable database via the Internet. For example, a typical pre-employment screen background search includes Verification of identity, SSN, employment history, education, and address history. Checks State and county criminal records, sexual offender, terrorist watch, credit check, bankruptcy, Federal criminal records.

In short, America (USA) is one of the greatest places in the world to live and it is getting better all the time.

What would the world be like without the USA? How many billions of people would be more impoverished, enslaved, and diseased? How many times has America saved Europe, Korea, Israel, Kuwait, Bosnia, and others? Who stops more genocides in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East? And if you take off your blinders, you will see that the newly free Iraq will become one of the greatest countries in the Middle East because of America.

They're really uptight about things too.. Carrying guns is the problem not the solution. As for saving the rest of the world I think you'll find that these things are generally combined efforts involving other countries. Without the UK's stupid decision to step into the fray in Iraq alongside President (Mission Accomplished)Bush, there would have been no bombing of Baghdad, collateral damage etc.
I really like living here, but the gun culture is disturbing.
Do you carry one? shock
Must be quiet season in Trollland. Maybe the oldtimers there have decided to fly away for the winter. There may be further trouble ahead if they use that time to visit the real rest of the world and their tired old America is the freeest and best rhetoric crumbles away from misuse. This one ust be trying to keep the dream alive in their absence! lol
I hear they're putting weapon detectors in UK schools cos of the knife problem!! Yikes.
In my experience, most Americans wait until their work life has finished before they venture out into the rest of the world, especially crossing the pond. Mind, if it wasn't for the war, America would still have the lowest issue of passports in the entire world.

Kriky @ Sat 02 Feb, 2008 Wrote:
[In short, America (USA) is one of the greatest places in the world to live and it is getting better all the time.

What would the world be like without the USA? How many billions of people would be more impoverished, enslaved, and diseased? How many times has America saved Europe, Korea, Israel, Kuwait, Bosnia, and others? Who stops more genocides in Europe, Africa, and the Middle East? And if you take off your blinders, you will see that the newly free Iraq will become one of the greatest countries in the Middle East because of America.



Nuff said :D :D :D

Oh, I stopped taking it in by that bit, moo! Priceless.

Just one question, though -the "newly free iraq" -that's as in free with purchase of any novelty t-shirt from the rebublican store, rather than as in freed to exercise human rights and all that twaddle?

Kriky @ Sat 02 Feb, 2008 Wrote:
You will note that when the American economy hiccuped recently, the rest of the world caught pneumonia, and stock markets tumbled throughout the world. So even if your America is so horrible, America supports the wellbeing of almost the entire world. How much misery and death is avoided because American freedom, rule of law, and the resulting American economy generate vast amounts of wealth in the world to support, feed, and care for billions of people.


I liked this bit best. As though bundling the sub standard, illegal and ill researched loans and selling them to the rest of the world was anything but illegal, immoral and exploitive. As though they were doing everyone a favor.
I also liked the chap from the international banking community on the world service saying, and I paraphrase,
it will take quite a while before American bankers begin to realise what they have done. The rest of the world knows and I wouldn't say the reaction has been favorable.

Anyone remember this,

http://rationalrevolution0.tripod.com/wa..._the_s.htm

it's like dejavu all over again, but bigger.

Unsafe wherever you go.. http//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7224568.stm

Burn down the Malls, its the only solution.
is there some sort of pattern to all this, something obvious? .. http//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7235671.stm
a link between having guns and killing people with them and not having guns and not killing anybody?
It just goes on and on. I don't think its the guns, it seems to me that uncaring and bureaucratic nature of American officialdom creates a frustratingly alienating experience. It might well be that because it is totally an immigrant country with no ethnic or grand-cultural cohesion, that empathy and compassion are difficult for Americans.
and again..http//www.msnbc.msn.com/id/23059784/ ! shock
Crikey.. http//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/world/americas/7246003.stm
I blame the Reagan administration for systematically dismantelling the mental health care in, firstly, California, and then the rest of the country.
Good Queen Thatch did the same thing in the UK.

manc @ Thu 14 Feb, 2008 Wrote:
I blame the Reagan administration for systematically dismantelling the mental health care in, firstly, California, and then the rest of the country.


All to support a totally bankrupt ideology. They sold it under the euphemism of 'fiscal responsibility' and the gullible and idiotic public lapped it up with abandon, not realizing that it was in all but a few cases against their and their families self interest. It was a hell of a marketing job.

Now though, I believe that with the failure of Reganomics, supply-side economics, trickle down-theory, Laffer curve and religious bigotry that are the cornerstones of American conservatism, is now totally discredited set of ideas. Only a few small minded and stubborn idiots would even give this type nonsense a second look these days.

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