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I just read this article and I am floored

http//news.bbc.co.uk/1/hi/england/london/6284347.stm

Why on earth would you join the police force and then say you cannot shake hands due to your religious believes. how in the hell she gonna cuff someone etc etc.

She must have known that this would course a stir. All crap like this does is make her religeon etc look bad. are they constantly going to see how far they can push. Sooner or later things are really gonna break and get very nasty.

Would you sign up for a job and then say sorry I cannot do it on these grounds. She needs to be kicked out the police force.
Funnily enough, I can see that she might have a hierachy of beliefs where the applicable rule would change with circumstances, i.e. would a Jew or a Muslim eat the meat of the pig? No unless they were dying of starvation, in which case, it would be more of a sin to commit suicide by refusing than to eat. Of course, we have had people surviving by way of cannibalism.
Couldn't she wear gloves. I for one would, some of the "people" you have to arrest demand lots of protective clothing, and the Brenda wears gloves all the time and she has probably shook/shaken hands with more people than anyone else on earth, save her bigotted hubby with the thing about slitty eyes. roll
Wearing gloves would seem a very sensible option. But wouldn't get any media attention.
Ah yes, the cult of celebrity. Bloody neenaws.
you are a police officer, you are going to have to touch people one way or the other.
If you thought this was going to be an issue, don't join. Don't make it an issue once you are there.

Would be like applying to work in a slaughter house that only done pigs and then say I don't want to touch pigs due to my religion. Its stupied
The article quotes her as saying that muslim law is flexible and if it was necessary to perform her job, she would do it. Clearly she managed to make it through training until this point without too much of a problem, so there's no real reason to believe that this is not the case.

But hell, it's a good story isn't it? Just the sort of thing to keep the wounds raw and the maggots squirming. Why find a sensible compromise?

monster @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:20 pm Wrote:
Wearing gloves would seem a very sensible option. But wouldn't get any media attention.


Funny, but I was taught that one should remove ones gloves before shaking hands. I think it originally had something to do with showing an empty hand, as did the salute.

If she was Japanese, would a handshake have been expected automatically?

Shaking the hand of a high ranking man in the police force has nothing to do with her job does it? So why the fuss? I can see a huge difference between her shaking his hand and doing her job - am I the only one?

With this being the type of ceremony it was, maybe her husband was there watching? Or her family?

londonsquare @ Mon 22 Jan, 2007 12:29 am Wrote:

monster @ Sun Jan 21, 2007 8:20 pm Wrote:
Wearing gloves would seem a very sensible option. But wouldn't get any media attention.


Funny, but I was taught that one should remove ones gloves before shaking hands. I think it originally had something to do with showing an empty hand, as did the salute.


Well that's a tricky one because ladies kept their hats and gloves on in polite company, while men took theirs off, however, ladies never used to shake hands. Now one might suggest that if they are going to be in an equal op job like the police, the women should act the same as the men, but last I saw, they still seem to be dressing them differently, so a difference in glove etiquette would hardly be an issue. :D





There ya go. Seems to be OK for her Maj and folks in uniform.
monster, I give you best. I thought only of what I, as a male, was taught. oops

londonsquare @ Mon 22 Jan, 2007 8:48 am Wrote:
monster, I give you best. I thought only of what I, as a male, was taught. :oops:


Ah, though, you were brought up to be a gentleman, so no need to know lady etiquette rules as it's the mother's job to pass them on to the children ;) Although, you think they'd tell you so you'd be able to recognise a gloveless slut when you saw one! :lol:

monster @ Mon 22 Jan, 2007 8:55 am Wrote:

londonsquare @ Mon 22 Jan, 2007 8:48 am Wrote:
monster, I give you best. I thought only of what I, as a male, was taught. :oops:


Ah, though, you were brought up to be a gentleman, so no need to know lady etiquette rules as it's the mother's job to pass them on to the children ;) Although, you think they'd tell you so you'd be able to recognise a gloveless slut when you saw one! :lol:


:lol: Of course, Diana refused to wear gloves when shaking people's hands.

Ben @ Mon 22 Jan, 2007 8:57 am Wrote:
:lol: Of course, Diana refused to wear gloves when shaking people's hands.


And now she's dead.

Coincidence? Hmmm?

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