So, border controls are being tightnened, delays at the bridges and tunnels between USA and Canada are longer, in future passports will be required...
and yet...
The Detroit Marathon is going to run 4 miles in Windsor, CANADA? The only hills in the race will be up onto the bridge and down of again, and down into the tunnel and back up again. Other than that the course is really flat and so it's billed as one of the fastest marathons in the country.
???
How fast can it be when the runners have to go through border control twice? It's a minimum of 30 minutes to get through by car.
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Pretty speechless, really. Would love to see the Dept Of Homeland Screw-Ups' official take on this one......
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...I don't have a problem with letting the runners go unchecked (or pre-checked), but I will have a problem if I don't get the same treatment next time I go -I't's a helluva lot harder to fit an illegal in my car than in the middle of a pack of runners.....
http//www.detroitfreepressmarathon.com/
I'm definately in favour of building the fence along the border. We want to keep the Americans fenced in and only allow a very limited few to visit.
On a related but very different issue there are an awful lot of "keep them out!" stories in the British press about Eastern Europeans since I've been back. It's weird because the dreaded Polish Plumber story pops up almost everywhere to explain the dire straits of British modern life. A fine example was on Sunday morning's paper review on BBC 24. An editor for the Telegraph (if I remember correctly) was explaining that the reason Britain is the fattest nation in Europe was because Eastern Europeans had moved to the UK and had taken a large proportion of manual jobs away from British workers - therefore they had taken other work that was less physically intensive and they evidently ate more somehow. No-one else seemed to think this reaasoning that odd.
These types of story seem to crop up all the time.
As for the run - maybe they'll factor in the boarder crossing times? ???
That's pretty awful to suggest it's the Eastern Europeans fault the UK is fat.
Why don't they blame high fructose corn syrup?
Building a fence won't solve the problem. I have an acquaintance who has come over from Argentina to this country and paid a boarder patrol officer $8000 to come in. Four questions were asked on his entry and he was told how to answer those in order not to raise suspicion from other "not so corrupt" border patrol officer on duty. And he is here now and since then 5 of his friends are in the U.S. Do the math and you can see why this is going to be difficult to curb. As long as you have corrupt people being responsible for the immigration process nothing will work. And fake I.D. will be the next thing.
Anyone wanting a fence should note that it works both ways, like the Berlin Wall mrgreen
Building a fence won't solve the problem. .
Forgot to say, I mena the Canadian border. That's where we need a fence.
Canada.
Living the American dream since 1860, without violence.
WHY WHY WHY cant anybody who wishes come to this country LEGALY like i and most of the rest of the posters here did ??? ( some of us english settlers do manul jobs that not many americans want )
its all a mater of attitude really if they are NOT willing to go the legal route they are hding something KEEP THEM OUT PERIOD .
So nobody else thinks that allowing a field of marathon runners to pass through two border points without so much as a pause makes all the border security increases a bit pointless? Foreign runners do have to take their passports to the marathon check-in, so presumably there's some kind of mass entry/exit thing, but it still sounds like the perfect opportunity to smuggle a few terrorists in to me.... roll
come in but do it the legal way.
The EU will break down cuz of legal movement if they don't do something soon.
The older poorer member states population was content to site at home and waite for European Aide to build the country. Newer member states, their population is not waiting and up and moving. This is upsetting the older member states population and forcing them at looking internal boarder controls . Surely against one of the prime rules of the EU.
So nobody else thinks that allowing a field of marathon runners to pass through two border points without so much as a pause makes all the border security increases a bit pointless? Foreign runners do have to take their passports to the marathon check-in, so presumably there's some kind of mass entry/exit thing, but it still sounds like the perfect opportunity to smuggle a few terrorists in to me.... :roll:
Yes, I do agree.
However, I thought the Canadian border was always pretty porous wasn't it? I've seen border crossings on TV that don't have a guard but an honour system where people crossing swipe their passports if they choose. My MIL says that the convent she went to school in had the school house in the USA but the chapel and dorms were in Canada.
So nobody else thinks that allowing a field of marathon runners to pass through two border points without so much as a pause makes all the border security increases a bit pointless? Foreign runners do have to take their passports to the marathon check-in, so presumably there's some kind of mass entry/exit thing, but it still sounds like the perfect opportunity to smuggle a few terrorists in to me.... :roll:
Just a question because I don't know the process, are marathon runners " checked" by immigration before they get a visa? it will be difficult issue to stop the real athletes from the rest, I guess it will be hard to achieve 100% security. And I agree, people should come here legally, but as long as there are corrupt officers and companies willing to take on illegal immigrants, this problem will continue.
So nobody else thinks that allowing a field of marathon runners to pass through two border points without so much as a pause makes all the border security increases a bit pointless? Foreign runners do have to take their passports to the marathon check-in, so presumably there's some kind of mass entry/exit thing, but it still sounds like the perfect opportunity to smuggle a few terrorists in to me.... :roll:
Yes, I do agree.
However, I thought the Canadian border was always pretty porous wasn't it? I've seen border crossings on TV that don't have a guard but an honour system where people crossing swipe their passports if they choose. My MIL says that the convent she went to school in had the school house in the USA but the chapel and dorms were in Canada.
There's a library in VT that straddles the border. And no, you don't need a passport to pass through.
They do, however, apportion the proerty taxes :roll:
I was thinking of that library when I read this post yesterday but couldn't remember which state it was (partly) in.
Dianey, the border at Detroit-Windsor is certainly not porous. Especially since 9/11/01. The passport/ID checks are fairly meticulous. And because it's a tunnel and bridge border, it is an easy crossing point to monitor. There are only two other crossing points between Buffalo and Thunder Bay (Port Huron / Sarnia, and Sault Ste Marie) so they are busy too.