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These two links came up in a thread on the non-hyphen forum. I thought they might be of interest to people who don't visit that site:

http://thinkprogress.org/2006/08/21/bush-on-911/


Daily Mail
I don't mind Blair getting off the sinking ship but hope that he protests loudly as he goes.

As for Bush's comment, well at least he doesn't have to lie about that doozy any more.
That Daily Mail has a link to this

http//www.heavy.com/heavy.php?videoPath=/content/heavynews/videos/presccott05

pilgrim_007 @ Wed 23 Aug, 2006 10:52 am Wrote:
I don't mind Blair getting off the sinking ship but hope that he protests loudly as he goes.


Bollocks. I hope he goes down in flames.

As much as I dislike Blair I will say at least he's not Jacques Chirac lol
I don't understand non-GWB supporters having a down on Chirac. It's not the French who are throwing their young people's lives away in a stupid adventure in Iraq. Yet they are going to supply a major crew to the Lebanon force, one that could help to bring peace, but they insisted on knowing the terms first.

The are doing what most of us wish that our countries would do, or would have done.
Yes, well said.

If France had not intervened and played a rather nifty "bait and switch" with Israel, then the conflict would most likely still be raging.

The olde worlde apparently still has a trick or two to show the newer version now and again.
Hay I will not defend any political figure and just give facts.

French company's and government gained more from Iraqi via doing under handed deals with sadam than anyone.

When they say french troops are being sent sent. That means the Foriegn Legion.

Forces they do deploy have a number of problems and issues. Just the same as any force

They talk that they will when they really mean they won't. Monetary reform within the EU they will not agree cuz they get most especially from CAP.

Political figures are all from the same mould, the what I can get and screw the rest

Goose3 @ Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:06 pm Wrote:
Hay I will not defend any political figure and just give facts.

French company's and government gained more from Iraqi via doing under handed deals with sadam than anyone.

When they say french troops are being sent sent. That means the Foriegn Legion.

Forces they do deploy have a number of problems and issues. Just the same as any force

They talk that they will when they really mean they won't. Monetary reform within the EU they will not agree cuz they get most especially from CAP.

Political figures are all from the same mould, the what I can get and screw the rest


Come on, Goose.

The USA is pissed because the French got more out of Saddam, under the radar, than they did.

The Foreign Legion is made up of volunteers, they don't press gang these days. The US army is made up largely of disadvantaged people including emigrants or the children of same.

londonsquare @ Mon Aug 28, 2006 22:18 Wrote:

Goose3 @ Mon Aug 28, 2006 9:06 pm Wrote:
Hay I will not defend any political figure and just give facts.

French company's and government gained more from Iraqi via doing under handed deals with sadam than anyone.

When they say french troops are being sent sent. That means the Foriegn Legion.

Forces they do deploy have a number of problems and issues. Just the same as any force

They talk that they will when they really mean they won't. Monetary reform within the EU they will not agree cuz they get most especially from CAP.

Political figures are all from the same mould, the what I can get and screw the rest


Come on, Goose.

The USA is pissed because the French got more out of Saddam, under the radar, than they did.

The Foreign Legion is made up of volunteers, they don't press gang these days. The US army is made up largely of disadvantaged people including emigrants or the children of same.


Indeed, the US army is made up of the poor, the disadvantaged and aliens looking for a short cut to residency and citizenship.

France may have declined GWBs kind offer to jump into the predictable quagmire of Iraq, but it does have forces deployed around the world on UN, EU and NATO duties. Two French soldiers died in Afghanistan a couple of days ago and French troops are deployed in Congo and Ivory Coast (you'll recall America balked at helping in Liberia).

The irony of the US antipathy towards Chirac is that he is probably the most yankophile French President ever. He was educated and worked in the US and is quoted as admiring US culture and policy(such as anti unionism). Unfortunately for him, large parts of the French population don't share his anti-union sentiments.

As I said I am not defending anyone here. To me a wrong doing is a wrong doing no matter who or what country carried them out.

There have been a number of charges against French troops serving in Africa for both rape and murder. The Foreign Legion is still made up of individuals that are running away from something. Infact I am sure they never pressed ganged people into the serve.

We can also talk about Green Peace Warrior.

Every country does sh*t like this one way or the other. So no one has clean hands in international affairs.
Bring it on the Marble Arch and hang both Bush and Blair for lying and treason. I want to see them both go down the gutter. Who said that liberation brings freedom? The U.S. sees it as the Chosen One when it comes to spreading freedom around the world, the only thing they have spread so far is death and unjust to all of the U.S. troops and innocent Iraq civilians. And TB has destroyed Britain's image around the world for being Bush's poodle.
The Tyburn Tree is long gone, there's only a plaque where it stood.

Goose3 @ Tue 29 Aug, 2006 2:27 pm Wrote:
Every country does sh*t like this one way or the other. So no one has clean hands in international affairs.


I dunno... Costa Rica and Andorra seem quite nice people.

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