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I dont know if this is the right forum , but if it isnt im sure our hardworking mods will move it .

I saw this documentary last night and for the very few times in my life i was close to tears
This animal rights group * last chance * at great danger to themselves filmed this over a 3 year period , it takes place in the deep south arkansas and nieghbouring mississippi

The gruel and unnnessassry suffering those poor annimals went though is enought to make you lose all your faith in mankind .

If you feel you are strong enought to see the documentary on HBO do so if your faint at heart STAY AWAY .

I posted this to hopefully bring up awareness to the problems we have with this kind of bisiness adequate laws but very little enforcement, supervision of these types of extablisment must be beefed up .

How can we condemm countrys like china for there treatment of animals when this sort of thing goes on in our back yard ???

medical research on animals is nessasary but im researching and rethinking which if any research laboratorys get my support in the future , although they ( the research labouratorys ) where not directly involved I have a strange feeling some of them know this kind if thing goes on .

The punnishment melted out to mr 'redneck" baird and his family where far to lenient ,all there asses should be in jail for at least a decade .

And what does /or did this man do when he wasnt torturing and killing dogs WHY HE WAS A PREACHER ....

dont get me started on that

To read about this programe and the conviction that followed this investigation
click below .


http//www.lcanimal.org/invest/baird.htm


http//www.hbo.com/docs/programs/dealingdogs/index.html
I saw something exactly like this 16 years ago, only it was on the treatment of animals in the meat industry. I've been a vegetarian ever since.

The thing that pi$$es me off the most is that its never taken seriously by anyone over here. In the UK, people actually get stuff done about stuff like this. But anyone who tries to do anything over here is 'a far left hippy liberal treehugger' so they're ignored... evil Its not even a political thing. Most people care about the suffering of animals

adeshell @ Thu 23 Feb, 2006 Wrote:
I saw something exactly like this 16 years ago, only it was on the treatment of animals in the meat industry. I've been a vegetarian ever since.

The thing that pi$$es me off the most is that its never taken seriously by anyone over here. In the UK, people actually get stuff done about stuff like this. But anyone who tries to do anything over here is 'a far left hippy liberal treehugger' so they're ignored... :evil: Its not even a political thing. Most people care about the suffering of animals


T hats right one of the things that i cant come to terms with here is that EVERY subject wether it be social/ or not is somehow made political and when it comes to deciding which side of the fence a citizen is on they go by political dictate to .

Ive even seen it here with posters .
kind of annoying at times .





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I didn't see the programme, but in response to the comment regarding the meat industry, I heard Dr Temple Grandin speak on NPR the other day. She is an autistic woman, who does research into improving the conditions in slaugherhouses for the animals - http//www.grandin.com/ I've no doubt there's still room for considerable improvement, but at least she's doing something pretty effective. I recently flew over Kansas and the northern part of Oklahoma and Texas and was amazed at the size of the stock yards there. You could smell them from a good 5 miles away, and about 2000' above the ground. They were huge, and the thousands of animals held in one relatively small area can't be conducive to an ideal, or particularly healthy environment. Just so long as that meat on the supermarket shelf is within the sell-by date and price bracket, who cares how it got there. Right?

Back to the dogs and the original post. Sadly, puppy mills exist all over the country, and the resulting animals, for which airheads pay vast sums of money, are invariably inbred and carry potentially severe genetic disorders. Add to that the dog fighting, ear-trimming, de-clawing, tail docking and general cruelty by ignorance, and we are a very sorry lot to criticize other countries on their standards of animal husbandry.

You'd never guess I grew up on a farm, was taught to respect animals and treat them humanely, and I volunteer at the local humane society, would you wink
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