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Lee @ Sat Sep 24, 2005 8:50 am Wrote:
Saw this late last week. The crusty old liberal Phil Donahue is one of the first people I've seen on Bill O'Reilly's FOX News show really managed to challenge him point-by-point.

O'Reilly's technique is to interrupt, wave his finger and shout the person down. (In the case of one interview referred to here with Jeremy Glick, a left-wing activist who lost family in 9/11 O'Reilly simply cut his mic after berating him) These techniques frequently work to O'Reilly's advantage.

But Donahue, who was on as a Sheehan supporter is a wily old ex-talk show host himself and wasn't having any of it. Whatever you think of either man's views it was great for once on the show to see a lively debate and for O'Reilly to be held in check.


http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,170195,00.html



I've been wanting to see for a long time a primetime show where real debates are debated/discussed in a format like the presidential debate. Imagine two scholars philosophers intellects and every third sunday regular street people debating real issues facing the country and the world. People would get entertainment and knowledge all in one show, but then they may wake up to the overpaid politicians who serve their special interest groups and their bosses (the illumanated ones) instead of the american people.

Saw a book in Costco yesterday called something like the hundred worst Americans.

Phil Donahue was in there somewhere, along with basically every celebrity/Democrat you can mention. I'd never heard of the author but he managed to miss out any Republicans. O'Reilly. Limbaugh etc. and made a big point of including Al Franken in there too.

No.1 was Michael Moore - which is ironic really as he's about the only celebrity/political activist I've seen that is honest enough to say that most Americans are really stupid. If he's a bad American for that, then god help the rest.
That's written by the insufferable Bernard goldberg. He's a newscaster who used to work at CBS until he could "take it no more." "It" being liberalism. Conservatives adore him because he can actually point to instances when Dan Rather wasn't fair on something. Which is hard. Unfortunately for Goldberg he is a terrible terrible writer. And his amazing evidence of bias is often crap. Such as all tv news is biased because it comes out of New York city which is run by liberals - like Giuliani presumably. Of course he omits CNN because that ruins his point. And he says Fox News isn't biased, except when it is, which is a good thing.

His new book includes people who aren't dangerous in any way. He cites that infomarcial guy who's covered in question marks and promises to give you the secrets to government. Two others I remember are John Edwards (creepy yes, dangerous no) and Courtney Love - clearly a danger to us all. Which means he couldn't think of enough people. Goldberg defends the accusation that all the people included are liberals by saying he included David Duke and Michael Savage - two people who are disliked even by their own parents. I saw him defend his book to John Stewart - who made him look a total tit.

Yet I know people who love Bias and Arrogance, and I remember National Review's reviewer masturbating to this book. I just couldn't get past the fact he writes terribly.
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