lol Great news today that they have got the scum that tried blowing up the underground. Fingers crossed that they are the only cell left, but some how I do not think so.
But brings up a lot of questions regarding immigration, targeting and possible new rules of deportation.
One thing they are saying, is that individuals should be shown the order of the boot. But most of these individuals are British, so deport them to where???
Individuals have an abililty to change their views and what they may see as a reason to turn against the state/government. I mean most asylum seekers are just that cuz they p*ssed of the government of their own country (be it one way or the other).
Could you not class extreme animal lib rights people as extremists, after all they have planted bombs, and threatened people , the KKK, Black panthers etc. Most of these are home grown. So where do you kick these people. Do you say that a 2nd generation Brit, is really still an Indian at heart.
Even individuals on this board that maybe US citizens, would still cheer for the Uk against USA football match.
Its going to be interesting how this really all pans out over the coming months and years.
So what say you
I'm kinda mean about this. My feelings are the same toward these guys as toward child molesters. Put them in with the general prison population twisted
smile I understand that. It is the most normal reaction to have. . Same as me and I do not feel I am speaking out of turn, by saying that of 100% of individuals that post here. Kick them out or in prison, but the Muslim faith is the fastest growing religion in the prison system. Just look at the Nation Of Islam.
What makes you think that giving them a 5 yr term is going to change their views?
How do you get them to change a view???. One thing I have learnt over many years studying this, is that individuals that get dragged into these organizations, cults etc all have the very same mind set, the same weaknesses, that the leaders of these groups manipulate.
If you look at Manson. To this day there are individuals from his cult, that do not think anything he did was wrong.
Its going to be very interesting.
But into the pot, freedom of speech,expression and human rights. Makes it even more interesting.
AFAIAC these morons gave up any claim to so called "Human Rights" when they decided to bomb the crap out of London. They didn't afford any of the victims or their families any human rights so, tough. That's how it is. They need to be rounded up and dropped off on the North Pole....or the moon....and have their British citizenship stripped from them.
Bastards.
Debs x evil
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What makes you think that giving them a 5 yr term is going to change their views?
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What five year term? Or are you being very European? As far as I'm concerned it's life for each dead person, and when i say life I mean you come out of there in a box. Also, attempted murder charges for everyone on the train/bus. I reckon we're looking at sentences of several hundred years.
I'd also fling a minimum, with no time off for anything whatsoever, of ten years, at anyone, man, woman or child who gave them shelter.
But that's just me, the most liberal facist you'll find
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lol Yea was reading the papers back home and it made me laugh that the lot they got yesturday, told the cop, 'we have rights you know'. Funny how they want their rights, but they did not care about the rights of the people they killed.
North pole, moon why should we inflict them on those places lol. Its going to be very interesting as I said. Maybe they will have to setup something like the Maze Prison and still them all in that.
As a collective society do we round them all up into one place . Ummmm maybe a UN Prison or should each country deal with them lol.
See if the UN can keep the peace in at least one place lol
Struck me how the IRA disarmed this last week. The Loyalists didn't, but they never do. Hell, they even resurrected the man with the big voice when he's whispering, whom I hadn't heard of since the troubles in the 70's, can't think of his name. You know who I mean though don't you, BelFaaast!!
Like him indoors said, This is no time to be a freedom fighter and still no united Ireland.
Let's hope they learn lessons from the treatment of the IRA. The more you imprisoned , the less you talked, the more they grew.
Treat them as the criminals they are and bang em up for good. Drop the terrorist label and make CRIMINAL the term.
Oh, and I really think America could do with cultural adverts. ie, this is a sikh, this is a Hindu, this is a Muslim.
Bit like Carlos Mencia did on the comedy zone. I'm so sick of sikhs being thought of as Muslims. Drives me nuts that they can't distinguish.
Bit like Carlos Mencia did on the comedy zone.
That guy is funny as hell, I cried watching that.
/threadjack over
My Grandfather who lived and fought in WW2 said that the only solution to this problem is what Winston Churchill did with the British-Germans and Italians and Japs and how he had them all interterned and arrested and held on the Isle of Man. He said we should do that will all the British Muslims, even though most will probably be the innocent, like the British Germans etc.
He also said that President Woodrow made it illegal to say hateful things about America which we should do it Britian. He said we also need Racial Profiling and said if we dont do these things we are gonna keep getting bomded and attacked.
What pisses me off is that one of these twonks was given a 5-year jail sentence for aggravated robbery or something similar, was released early and THEN was given British citizenship DURING THE ORIGINAL TERM OF HIS SENTENCE!!!
They should be sent to rot in a British jail under strict surveillance so they do not convert any more while inside. Then when their FULL term is up, sent back to whatever country they originally had citizenship of, and their British citizenship stripped for ever.
If I was to obtain the US citizenship and started threatening people's lives over here, I would expect to lose that citizenship too.
As for the argument over how long the term is, remember these guys didn't actually kill anyone. The ones that did are dead already. And these guys cannot be tried for crimes someone else did.
Am I the only person who has something against the term "suicide bomber"? Who gives a toss if the person who did it killed themselves as well? They should only use the term if they were the only people killed. The 4 from 7/7 are MASS MURDERERS and nothing else.
Actually come to think of it, a clever lawyer could apply the death of the innocent Brazilian to the charges against these 4. He was killed as part of their [strike]man[/strike]hunt.
Sorry but anyone that tries to kill an innocent person is not a man.
shock East17 feel the same, thats why they are scum. And it makes me more mad when I heard one of them say, they never meant to kill anyone.
Well they most be stupid, what did they expect to happen when you leave a bomb on the underground. grrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.
But you know they will have a clever lawyer and he will agrue, yes my clint done it, but he never really meant to hurt anyone, and as for his views, well he is intilted to free speech, and plus he was abused as a child and he was brought up in a poor area and never had a good education and prospects etc etc . He was just easily lead.
Makes me sick
Thats why I could not be a lawyer. I could never defend someone I knew was Guilty.
So whats the solution??? How do we stop it...
Did u know that when one of the hijackers got on one of the 911 planes security was susspicious, but they knew they would get into trouble with the ACLU or something if they singled him out cos of his race. So they let him on.
Free speech yes for everyone to express their views however obnocious it may be to others
Free speech does not include ACTOF / OR THE INCITMENT TO ACT violently sorry .
by the way did these guys EXPRESS there views in the free society that the uk is , NO they hid until somebody decided it was time to do thier cowerdly act and then crawled out from under their rock .
they can shout free speech as much as they like it DOESNT APLY TO THEM
Death to them all i say .
My Grandfather who lived and fought in WW2 said that the only solution to this problem is what Winston Churchill did with the British-Germans and Italians and Japs and how he had them all interterned and arrested and held on the Isle of Man. He said we should do that will all the British Muslims, even though most will probably be the innocent, like the British Germans etc.
Google Eric Rudolph. Me, I can't wait to see the day when all good-lawabiding Christian citizens get the pleasure of a 4 am alarm call and a nice long train ride to a refugee camp.
Did u know that when one of the hijackers got on one of the 911 planes security was susspicious, but they knew they would get into trouble with the ACLU or something if they singled him out cos of his race. So they let him on.
Can you find me a link to this? Race and Religion are two different things. There are white Muslims you know. Just as there are arab Christians.
/So far, this is looking like two rather mis-informed generic right-wing ramblings picked up from AM radio.
//turning against your country is called treason last I heard. Hanging offence still, right?