8) Asking a question to see how everyone takes it
The music companies take the people that designed file sharing to court and win.
My question is this (and I am not justifying breach of copy right), sony and the rest of the bunch produce Blank CD's the hardware and software reproduce copies etc, so are they in affect encouraging illegal copying etc.
After all you cannot tell me that they don't know that most of thier blank CD's goes to pirating etc.
IF they are so concerned about all this why don't they make it harder to get thier product. I think they want to have thier cake and eat it.
Big companies telling, others what to do thats what it comes down to
That's a tricky topic.
We use most of our copying software and CDs legally -that is to make copies of the original for our personal use so as not to risk damage to the original. If we couldn't do this, we'd buy far fewer CDs etc because we are so rough on them our replacement costs would be horrendous. But that said, I suspect we are in the minority. The loss of revenue to these companies from excluding customers like us would be minimal. Perhaps they should stop producing the software and the blank CDs.
But the knowledge is out there, so I think they would probably lose more by "taking a stance" against piracy than they would by sleeping with the enemy. Yes, they are having their cake and eating it. But the alternative is having their cake and watching someone else lick the icing off it before knocking it to the ground and grinding it into the dirt.
Thing that gets me is it's now illegal to take a copy for your own personnal use. like you'd leave the original CD in your car. As to DVDs, well, even if you give them to someone, and no money changes hands, it's illegal.
I think if you bought the original you should be able to take back ups. I've done it forever.
Got a new vinyll, tape it immediately before it got scratched. Got a CD, take a copy for the car in a plain white envelope.
Thieves are like magpies, they like color and sparkle and original.
I understand the artists problem, but hell, take that up with the guys who are taking 75% of your profits, if not more, your recording company and your movie company.
Thing that gets me is it's now illegal to take a copy for your own personnal use
I thought that got overturned?
If not, then why isn't stuff protected at all -it's easy enough. Ok so it's also easy to bypass, but putting it there reinforces/makes it clear that any copies are illegal.
Oh puhleeze.
I know some of y'all out there are filesharers.
Genie's out of the bottle now. Things have changed.
/pleading the fif on the actual file trading
//also knows it's not the right picture
All that goings on is in the US anyway, the courts here have said file sharing is NOT illegal. Napster got shutdown, because they had a central server, as suppose to P2P that goes on now, that is why some torrents sites have still managed to stay up.
Don't buy cds or movies, haven't done so in over 10yrs. Companies like x-copy that came out with protection removal softwares for dvd, got shutdown, but it only took in a kid in Norway ( dvd jon ) to find a simple hack for this copy protection.
Now there are even numerous freewares that do the job of removing the protection along with the subtitles for ya. This is going to carry on forever, and even though they are saying the Blu Ray discs coming out soon will be hard to copy, am sure that won't be the case.
8) I have also heard that they build a cost into blank CD's to cover the cost of people copying music etc.
Seems the music companies are actually encouraging all this.
I can't remember the last time I bought a CD...I do it very rarely. Then again, I don't get burned ones much either. The price of CDs just turned me off music. Before CDs, I'd buy 12" records and they would be 5 or 6 quid. All of a sudden this little shiny disc comes out and it's nearly twice the price and you can't get records anymore. I have heard that CDs are far cheaper to produce and I understand there must have been a rather large fixed cost to the technology but surely by now it's all just more profit.
So I don't buy because it's too expensive.....plus I don't want a huge collection only for some new funky format to come out.
Bag O shite.
Canada is in a legal limboland. The courts here struck down the music industry's attempts to go after 20 or 30 people considered the largest filesharers in the country.
Essentially that has meant filesharing has been legal here.
But now the federal government has rushed in an amended copyright act which is now tough on copying DVDs, filesharing etc.
Nevertheless, we have a Chinese shopping centre (Pacific Mall) in Toronto where you can buy, very openly, Chinese pirate DVDs of movies that are still in the cinemas (and they're 3 for $20!!). A few weeks ago they were busted. They were back in business as if nothing had happenned the same week.
As VRB says, the genie is out of the bottle. It's going to be very hard to put back.
All I can say is, a 3rd of all record execs are probably all fat cats too
http//www.techweb.com/showArticle.jhtml?articleID=164902383
thing is, all these record execs have earned their keep, they've either worked their way up to their cushy jobs, or gotten a degree and landed a mint job.. you can't say "well they make 110k a year, that is too much so we deserve to be able to download FooFighters newest songs!" that's just silly logic.
Say we "deserve" to be able to fileshare because it costs them 2 bucks to produce a CD yet us 22 bucks to buy it. Say you think we should be able to fileshare because you paid 10 bucks for the cassette back in 1988 and now think you have a right to have "My Sharona" on your ipod. Whatever.
I just have a problem with people who "hate" on rich people for no other reason than they are rich.
Back in the 80s we had cassette tapes poised in our boom boxes ready to record Duran Duran or Flock of Seagulls and if we sat and waited, and were lucky we got it on tape. Why wasn't that illegal?
File sharing is always going to happen whilst sharers are putting things on the net/IRC for people to download.
You have to look at it from the downloaders point of view.....
"It's there, waiting to be downloaded, they tell me its wrong to download it. How can something, there for the collecting of be so wrong? Right, I am gonna download it then cos I like this song only I cant afford to buy it just yet."
People are always going to download things that are there for the taking.
I plead the 5th )
It's like fireworks are illegal to let off in Michigan if they leave the ground.
Yet they are being sold ALL over the place.
That is why we all live in different places of choice.