This is an interesting set of videos where a routine traffic stop turns into a bit of a nightmare for two cops and particularly the woman driver who fails to follow directions.
Taser-ed
I know a lot of people are against Tazers - they've stopped people's hearts in a few cases and we had a case this way where an officer pulled out their handgun by accident, instead of their Tazer and killed someone struggling in the back of the patrol car.
Should probably mention that this could be a bit disturbing - 5,000 volts through you twice is going to hurt.
Saw this on Fark yesterday and damn near wet myself laughing. What kind of a dumbass tells a cop "Excuse me, I'm on a call"?
How clueless do you have to be to stay on the phone when the angry yelling cop has the taser pointed at you and has already threatened to tase you three times? Sort it out in court by all means, but get out of the car!
How clueless do you have to be to stay on the phone when the angry yelling cop has the taser pointed at you and has already threatened to tase you three times? Sort it out in court by all means, but get out of the car!
The point is that the police shouldn't be getting angry, they are there to be impartial and objective administrators of law.
If this is not the case then they need further training or they need to be let go.
The point is that the police shouldn't be getting angry, they are there to be impartial and objective administrators of law.
If this is not the case then they need further training or they need to be let go.
The suspect was blatantly breaking the Law. Firstly, she was speeding (51mph in a 30mph zone). Furthermore, she was driving with a suspended license. A model citizen? I think, not! Speeding excessively while talking on a cell phone? Not only was she endangering her own life, she was putting the lives of other road users in jeopardy!
No Law Enforcement Officer is going to be impartial when dealing with a subject who has blatantly broken the Law; especially as this was not her first offence. To exacerbate the situation, she refused to exit the vehicle despite being asked politely on numerous occasions. She has no regard for the Law; she could have had a gun in her possession for all the Police Officers knew. How on earth could they be impartial when they were dealing with a subject who was defiant and obviously has no respect for the Law? They treated her with respect; she repeatedly refused to comply with their wishes and was arrogant, disrespectful and arguementative. They don't need further training; they did their job. :roll:
What Ellie said.
Although I'm not sure I want to get zapped by a Taser, I did find the officer was fairly respectful and polite, up to a point.
Whatever, I thought his conduct was beyond resonable and people have been shot and killed by the police for pulling out wallets, cell phones etc. so by that token, she got off rather lightly.
I am certainly not disputing that reasonable force can be used in the course of administering law, what I am suggesting is that it’s not reasonable or acceptable for the police in any circumstances, however provoked, to make decisions based on personal emotion.
Judgment and punishment are the domain of the courts.
what I am suggesting is that it’s not reasonable or acceptable for the police in any circumstances, however provoked, to make decisions based on personal emotion.
I agree, although in this instance I do not believe the Officers' decision was based on personal emotion. Rather, it was based on their professional assessment of the situation. They were dealing with a subject who deliberately defied them. They were also dealing with a subject who had two previous convictions. It is therefore reasonable to assume she was a person of poor moral ethics regarding the Law. Instead of following their direction, she immediately assumed a victim personna and became increasingly agrumentative until her demeanor bordered on hysteria. The Officers used reasonable force in order to subdue a hysterical subject who, as I said before, could have had a firearm in her vehicle/on her person. An agressively defiant subject is highly likely to use a firearm therefore Officer safety, which is always a priority, has to enter the equation. Perhaps if, instead of feeling victimized, she had discontinued her cell phone conversation she would have been able to focus her attention on the Police Officers to comply with their wishes, thus avoiding any unpleasantness.
Bottom line is, the moment her vehicle was stopped she knew she would be arrested (for driving with a suspended license), therefore she was immediately defensive and argumentative - angry that she had been caught again breaking the Law. Her emotions escalated until they bordered on hysteria. She could not be reasoned with, therefore reasonable force was used in order to dissipate her hysteria and get her out of her vehicle.
Judgment and punishment are the domain of the courts.
Indeed, and she had already been judged and punished by the court! However, she chose to disregard the judgement and her punishment by continuing to break the Law. Perhaps next time she'll think twice before blatantly disregarding the Law. Sadly, I would guess probably not. She has no regard for her own life but, more importantly, she has no regard for the lives of others. I'm just waiting on the accusations of "racism" being bandied around. That would be par for the course. :roll:
I'm just waiting on the accusations of "racism" being bandied around. That would be par for the course. :roll:
Too late. If you listen closely you can hear her say "This is racist/racism." on the second segment.
Too late. If you listen closely you can hear her say "This is racist/racism." on the second segment.
Oh yeah, I heard her say it. :roll: I'm just waiting on the masses to chip in.
How is it racism if it's a black cop pulling over a black chick?
/really really don't get that one.
How is it racism if it's a black cop pulling over a black chick?
/really really don't get that one.
Cos everyone knows that black cops are Oreos. They're a different race to the blacks.
Or in the philosophy of Chris Rock (I rarely watch him but this routine was good) it's a black person pulling over a n*g*a. The former being the good self-respecting black guy, and the latter being the ones that give them all a bad name. And yes I can use that word as I am quoting a black dude.