Work colleague has a son who has "learning difficulties" apparently the doctors say it all stemmed from his vaccinations as a baby which he reacted badly to....
Does/did anyone on here refuse to vaccinate their children? Anyone believe the idea that less is more when it comes to vaccines?
Anyone know if they used to routinely do the mumps vaccine in the late '70s in the UK?
the doctors say it all stemmed from his vaccinations as a baby which he reacted badly to....
When they say "stemmed" do they mean that his difficulties were first noticed after he had the vaccination, or do they have some form of medical link?
There is a good deal of literature on this. When my children were of the age, I read all I could find and came across no medical link between the two and some fairly convincing evidence that learning difficulties tend to become noticeable about the same age as when children have their last MMR. However, our main reason for opting to have them vaccinated with the MMR was that even if the postulated links were true, was that this represented the least risk overall to the children when compared with separate vaccinations or no vaccinations.
It's a very common accusation bandied about here in the US.
I can't say if it is the same in the UK.
My kids had all their shots. Sam had some twice cos the US military didn't trust the ones she'd had in Spain. roll
She inferred that the vaccinations "caused" the condition (which I guess could be a form of autism, I didn't get into it too much..)
Do you know when the mumps vaccine was introduced in the UK? I will have to have the entire MMR vaccine next week unless I can prove I had the mumps vaccine (which is not on my records).
Stel.
It's a very common accusation bandied about here in the US.
I can't say if it is the same in the UK.
My kids had all their shots. Sam had some twice cos the US military didn't trust the ones she'd had in Spain. :roll:
much more so in the UK ...as a result many children did not get vaccinated, measles is on the up and people are pissed of that kids are dying from it again.... :roll:
Apparently MMR was introduced some 35 years ago
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There is currently an outbreak of the mumps in the UK which was mentioned on the news whilst I was there.
I know I actually had the measles and rubella and was not vaccinated against them or the mumps - the MMR was started well after my time.
She inferred that the vaccinations "caused" the condition (which I guess could be a form of autism, I didn't get into it too much..)
Do you know when the mumps vaccine was introduced in the UK? I will have to have the entire MMR vaccine next week unless I can prove I had the mumps vaccine (which is not on my records).
Stel.
From what I can find it seems to have been 1988 when the MMR was introduced there.
Found this:
Mumps vaccine was first introduced in the combined MMR vaccine in 1988 and has never been recommended or given as a separate vaccine.
Bugger. :(
Not afraid of getting the vaccination/injection myself, just don't want to deal with feeling ill for a few days afterwards/paying $80 for the pleasure/having my arm swell up..
ah well...
Am still intrigued about the idea of vaccinations. People are recommending that pets don't get vaccinated for distemper/hardpad etc. anymore. Our vet has vaccinated Josie with her puppy jabs, but from now on we will use Titer tests before re-vaccinating to make sure we don't put too much into her system...
Intriguing, but I can imagine as a mother of a human, it must be worrying - who on earth wants to make a decision that could, in 10 years or so, turn out to be wrong?
Vaccinations against mumps were not standard when I was born (1970).
I remember mumps. That's when my mother taught me to knit.
I had to prove that I had these vaccinations for University over here, but when I wrote to my doctor back in the UK, he didn't have any records going that far back.
Anyway ended up just having a simple blood test done here, which showed that I had the antibodies in my system for mumps (I must have had it as a kid), and thus I didn't need the vaccinations.
That might be an option for you.
M
Every time one of the kids on our street got something, we were sent over to play with them. To be sure we got everything while we were very young as it is a lot less dibilitating for some diseases and less stress for mums I suspect.
I had my first polio vaccine on a sugar lump when i was about 11 or 12. The nurse wouldn't believe me when i said i wasn't to be given it.
I spent the equivalent of 2 terms and the summer holidays in bed. My dad had had polio.
I had all the other stuff when i was 26 in order to get into S. America. Before that i had the polio vaccine, on a sugar lump.
Wonder what she'd have done if I was diabetic?
Oh, and i got sent to play with people who had chickenpox,measles, german measles and mumps. I got them all, well actually, I got the chickenpox, I carry the measles virus, and I blagged the mumps in order to save my tonsils for an extra four years.
They got them in the end.
I have friends who have had their kids vaccinated separately with no ill effects, afraid of the combo because there is a child within the circle of friends who developed autism after it. I'm always doubtful about vaccines. I think they should be able to run a blood panel these days to see what you need and how much, one size does not fit all.
I,m not too medically inclined but i do know that before i came to the states [2 years ago] there was a BIG, BIG stink kicked up in the uk regarding mmr vaccinations and the [possible] consecuences it may or could have. Tony blair repeatedly blathered on at length regarding the safety of the vaccination when people protested on the steps of no. 10, yet when asked if his latest addition to his household would be vaccinated in the same way he never gave a straight answer and refused categorically to answer the question and continued to do so for weeks after until the topic died a death [nothing new there then].
I either had been vaccinated as a child or had one or the other of measles and mumps but I can't remember which.
Anyway, in 2000 I got the mmr vaccination in one arm and a tetanus booster in the other. One arm went really sore and the other didn't. I can't remember which was which but I didn't get any illness otherwise.