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"THE GAME OF THIER LIVES " (2005)

Looks like a movies worth seeing if it is showing your way .
It tells the story of the american foot ball team that beat us in the 1950 world cup ( how did taht happen ?)

Looks like ill have to wait until netflix gets it .

http//www.gameoftheirlivesmovie.com/

http//www.imdb.com/title/tt0354595/combined

Another hollywood pretend fictional story based loosely on real events.

No mention that the real captain of the American team at the time was born in Scotland nor that the goalscorer was from Haiti.

manc1976 Wrote:

Another hollywood pretend fictional story based loosely on real events.

No mention that the real captain of the American team at the time was born in Scotland nor that the goalscorer was from Haiti.

Dont know if the film mentions that mciikenny was born in scotland i havnt see it yet .

( dont know why that should an issue if he played for USA he must have been a citizen ).

I think the goalscorer is played by freddie adu ( thats what first got me interested in it ) so lets wait and see how true to facts it really is

JohnA Wrote:

( dont know why that should an issue if he played for USA he must have been a citizen ).

Do you really feel that a victory by Zola Budd or Greg Rusedski is a British victory?

JohnA Wrote:

dont know why that should an issue if he played for USA he must have been a citizen

quite presumptious.

http://www.soccerhall.org/famers/edward_mcilveney.htm

Quote:

He was selected the Scottish Junior League on a tour of the North of Scotland. On 16 June, 1947 he signed for Wrexham a club in the north of Wales then playing in the Third Division North of the English Football League. He played just seven Football League games for Wrexham before moving to the U.S. to stay with his sister arriving in New York on March 7, 1949. During his time in the United States he played in the American Soccer League with the Philadelphia Nationals. His play brought him to the attention of the selectors of the U.S. nationals team and he was chosen to be a member of the U.S. World Cup team in Brazil in 1950

Quite the citizen he made.
arrived in New York in 1949.
captaining the team in Belo Horizonte in 1950............

http://www.soccerhall.org/famers/joe_gaetjens.htm

just some more info on the goalscorer whom was a student/dishwasher from Haiti.
then lived in France after the world cup.
Another proud upstanding american non-citizen

manc1976 Wrote:

http://www.soccerhall.org/famers/edward_mcilveney.htm

Quote:

He was selected the Scottish Junior League on a tour of the North of Scotland. On 16 June, 1947 he signed for Wrexham a club in the north of Wales then playing in the Third Division North of the English Football League. He played just seven Football League games for Wrexham before moving to the U.S. to stay with his sister arriving in New York on March 7, 1949. During his time in the United States he played in the American Soccer League with the Philadelphia Nationals. His play brought him to the attention of the selectors of the U.S. nationals team and he was chosen to be a member of the U.S. World Cup team in Brazil in 1950

Quite the citizen he made.
arrived in New York in 1949.
captaining the team in Belo Horizonte in 1950............

http://www.soccerhall.org/famers/joe_gaetjens.htm

just some more info on the goalscorer whom was a student/dishwasher from Haiti.
then lived in France after the world cup.
Another proud upstanding american non-citizen

MATT i was under the impression that you had to have citizen ship birth /or otherwise to play for a national team.
Maybe they have changed the rules since then .Or are we saying that beckham could play for spain national team ??( if they would have him ) :D :D :D

JohnA Wrote:

MATT i was under the impression that you had to have citizen ship birth /or otherwise to play for a national team.

well yeah, I knew what you meant, but it isn't obviously the case.
case in point:-
Jackie Charltons Rep of Ireland team was as Irish as Jackie Chan.

I think the rules haven't changed that much either.

However, you can only play for 1 national full honors team,
For Example, a different scenario, say McIlvenney played more than 2 games for Manchester United, say he had a long illustrious career and as he was Scottish, couldn't then go onto to play for Scotland, as he had already played for the USA.

manc1976 Wrote:

JohnA Wrote:

MATT i was under the impression that you had to have citizen ship birth /or otherwise to play for a national team.

well yeah, I knew what you meant, but it isn't obviously the case.
case in point:-
Jackie Charltons Rep of Ireland team was as Irish as Jackie Chan.

I think the rules haven't changed that much either.

However, you can only play for 1 national full honors team,
For Example, a different scenario, say McIlvenney played more than 2 games for Manchester United, say he had a long illustrious career and as he was Scottish, couldn't then go onto to play for Scotland, as he had already played for the USA.

THANKS :-)