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What the fuck is congress doing interfering in a private matter ,not only do they want to interfer with our lives when we are living NOW they wont to inferfer when we are dead .

She has been like this for 14 years even the supreme court refused to interfere .
She is a vegetable let her go.


What will we end up if this law is passed a nation of 50 % zombies keep alive by tubes and medicine and the other 50% working and paying taxas to pay for all of this .


I dont think there is any of us here who would let IL decide what we do with our lives or what we wish to happen when we pass .

This has got blown up to tremedous proportions by the media, theses decisions as unpleasent as they my be are made fequently by loved ones who have a spouse in a iriversable coma .

14 years of this agony and the refusal to take 1 ml from a doner to revert custody to the perants shows me the spouse is very sincere in his goal to carry out his spouses wishes .
Part of the reason they are like this is that this gets tied into abortion rights. Look at Bush's statement about this case -- "those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern." Guess where he's going with that.

Of course, the irony that is lost on them is that this they are off on this ardent campaign for the respect for the sanctity of all forms of life while simultaneously defending the death penalty from all sides.

TexasBrit Wrote:
Look at Bush's statement about this case -- "those who live at the mercy of others deserve our special care and concern."


Except when he's trying to cut the budget. :roll:

Absolutely disagree with the comments here.

If you read between the lines it's nothing to do with this womans life and absolutely everything to do with money.

Once she dies he picks up the 1 million (or thereabouts) malpractice settlement money. While she lives he can't get at the money because it's hers and not his (yet).

A decent man would have divorced her like her parents asked him to. For Christ sake, he's had another girlfriend for a number of years and has children with her. Sounds really caring to me......NOT.

Instead he did a half hearted attempt at moving on with his life up to the point where it suited him and as soon as it reached the money issue.....well that's where it stopped.

Am I the only one who can see this???
He's turned down more than a Million already to walk away from the situation so I'm not so sure it is about the money.
When john had his episode just before last Christmas we actually had a counsellor come round to the hospital room to ask if we had a documentation on whether or not he wanted to be rescusitated should his heart stop. I can't remember the name of the document but they advised us to get one, each.
This states whether or not you wish to be kept alive by machines after a certain amount of time.

As to the cse here. I should imagine the husband has payed one helluva lot in medical bills already. That he will be considered a risk, as will his children if by her, for future insurance. I don't think it's about money. The brain stem is dead, the woman is no longer present. Only stem cell work could hope to revive her, and after the drugs and this amount of time, it's doubtful that would help.

indybrit Wrote:
Absolutely disagree with the comments here.

If you read between the lines it's nothing to do with this womans life and absolutely everything to do with money.

Once she dies he picks up the 1 million (or thereabouts) malpractice settlement money. While she lives he can't get at the money because it's hers and not his (yet).

A decent man would have divorced her like her parents asked him to. For Christ sake, he's had another girlfriend for a number of years and has children with her. Sounds really caring to me......NOT.

Instead he did a half hearted attempt at moving on with his life up to the point where it suited him and as soon as it reached the money issue.....well that's where it stopped.

Am I the only one who can see this???



There is no money settlement any money the insurance paid out was spent years ago


Only last week a bisinessman offered the husband 1MILION to hand over custody to the parants... he turned it down saying it was insulting ...

Dont know where the malpratice settlement would come from .she had a heart attack from a eating disorder .her conditions was like that before she recieved any medical treatment .


So the guys wife went into a vegatative state after a heart attack he could not carry out her wishes (not to be artifically keep alive )because of her interfering perants.

4 YEARS after her *condition* he found another partner and carried on with his life ,wouldnt most of us do the same ?????

JohnA Wrote:

indybrit Wrote:
Absolutely disagree with the comments here.

If you read between the lines it's nothing to do with this womans life and absolutely everything to do with money.

Once she dies he picks up the 1 million (or thereabouts) malpractice settlement money. While she lives he can't get at the money because it's hers and not his (yet).

A decent man would have divorced her like her parents asked him to. For Christ sake, he's had another girlfriend for a number of years and has children with her. Sounds really caring to me......NOT.

Instead he did a half hearted attempt at moving on with his life up to the point where it suited him and as soon as it reached the money issue.....well that's where it stopped.

Am I the only one who can see this???



There is no money settlement any money the insurance paid out was spent years ago


Only last week a bisinessman offered the husband 1MILION to hand over custody to the parants... he turned it down saying it was insulting ...

Dont know where the malpratice settlement would come from .she had a heart attack from a eating disorder .her conditions was like that before she recieved any medical treatment .


So the guys wife went into a vegatative state after a heart attack he could not carry out her wishes (not to be artifically keep alive )because of her interfering perants.

4 YEARS after her *condition* he found another partner and carried on with his life ,wouldnt most of us do the same ?????


I agree with indybrit until I found out that hes not allowed to legally divorce her, and he is still legally responsible for her medical insurance and bills. If they let him sign a document absolving all responsibility for her and allowed him to divorce then I am sure he wouldn't have any objections, the "hes doing it for the money" argument is largely a myth propagated by the networks and right wing talk radio.

How is he not legally able to divorce her?
Is that court ordered?

If the only reason for not being able to divorce is medical bills, that doesn't make sense either, as the parents could sign something to take that on.
From Whitehouse.org, a rather amusing if bleak vignette:

http://www.whitehouse.org/news/2005/031905.asp

/easily offended don't clicky the link
//you know who you are
Isn't it time that the US people were told that there is little difference between a fundementalist country such as Iran and their own country ( at present).
The counrty appears to be run by religeous zealots.
*Appears* to be? o

You don't know how lucky you are up there in America's attic.

indybrit Wrote:
Am I the only one who can see this???



No, you are not the only one who can see this, I am appalled that a husband, or a judge has that much power to take this womans life into their own hands and make the decision to starve her to death, regardless of the parents agonizing attemps to keep her alive.

I don't believe the husbands story of "just carrying out her wishes" most of us, while strong and healthy have said the same thing of not wanting to be kept alive by artificial means, there's nothing in writing here, plus why did it take him seven years before he decided to perpetuate this story, just about the time he was eager to move on with his new life and girl friend.

Thank God the congress intervened, hopefully in time to save her life, we treat the most heinous murderers with more rights and concerns than this poor woman, and her family, who have literally had to beg for some small intervention, this is shameful, I pray she lives and her parents get custody.

And John she is not on a life support machine, all she gets is food and water,not even sunshine and she is in a hospice centre.

Please, the woman's brain is just so much watery mush now. There's a brainstem but no real higher function. She ain't gonna get better.

jjaymac Wrote:

indybrit Wrote:
Am I the only one who can see this???









And John she is not on a life support machine, all she gets is food and water,not even sunshine and she is in a hospice centre.



Sure why dont we pass a law that allocates one of these *veggie,s *to a living person and insist that the caretaker makes sure the braindead person has a quality existance including taking them to the beach to sit in the sun and watch the waves and accumpany them on a trip to see there favourite sports team play alloow them to pick a movies to see and share with them the large box of popcorn accired at the concession stand . should the tube giving food water com unattached to the zombie it (under pain of inprisonment ) be immediatly reattached and the *veggie * revived by all and every medical means available should the veggie stop breathing on there own a penalty of deprivation of social outing to the beach , movies ,ball game etc wil be denied for a period of one month or until all the medical aids available to us humans have been applied to make the veggie *breathe again * .

Not forgetting the morning afternoon and evening prayers to the almighty on behalf of the veggie thanking him for his wisdom in sending goerge bush to us and allocating to him the power to keep a brain dead veggie alive no matter what .

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